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Well so far I am 0-5 on putting a halibut in my boat. I am hoping that this is the year!!

Sooooo I am starting to plan now so that I can maximize my limited times out. Due to work and school I will only be able to get out on Sundays. So with that in mind, I also realize that the weather may not cooperate. So at this point I can only really consider tides as I mark out the days possible.

So I want to tap into the collective Halibut wisdom and get your advice on the tides and locations that make sense.

The last time I pursued a Hali, I wnet out of John Whayne Marina. I think this gives me a pretty good run at Hien, Dallas, Partridge, and then any of the humps that are just right out in front. So it seems that it is a pretty good base to begin with as it gives me lots of options.

I have heard that you are more successful if you go further to Port Angelas. So I am willing to listen to those who catch more than I (which if you have caught 1 you are 100% more of an expert than I).

I know with the really big tide swings it can be tough to get your bait down. But there is always the window on the switch.
So which of these tides make the most sense, and which of them are only going to give me an hour of fishing and then give it up. Here are the tides and what I thing (the guy who has yet to catch a halibut) and would like your critiques and any advise.

Good days to go: Aprl 13, April 20, April 27,
Moderate days: May 4, 11,18, 25
stay home:

Su 13 High 12:16 AM 8.0 6:25 AM Set 3:49 AM 51
13 Low 6:35 AM 5.9 8:00 PM Rise 12:49 PM
13 High 9:07 AM 6.3
13 Low 5:07 PM 0.0

Su 20 High 3:38 AM 7.6 6:12 AM Set 5:51 AM 99
20 Low 10:43 AM -0.1 8:11 PM Rise 9:08 PM
20 High 5:59 PM 7.5
20 Low 10:59 PM 5.2

Su 27 Low 3:27 PM 0.2 5:59 AM Rise 2:33 AM 66
27 8:21 PM Set 10:58 AM

Su 4 High 2:56 AM 8.1 5:48 AM Rise 4:54 AM 3
4 Low 9:05 AM -1.2 8:31 PM Set 8:12 PM
4 High 5:19 PM 7.6
4 Low 9:11 PM 5.0

Su 11 Low 5:05 AM 5.7 5:38 AM Set 2:17 AM 36
11 High 7:45 AM 6.1 8:40 PM Rise 11:55 AM
11 Low 3:27 PM -0.5
11 High 11:20 PM 8.3

Su 18 High 2:06 AM 7.5 5:29 AM Set 4:17 AM 95
18 Low 9:44 AM -0.8 8:49 PM Rise 8:07 PM
18 High 5:30 PM 7.7
18 Low 10:03 PM 6.0

Su 25 Low 2:00 PM -0.7 5:21 AM Rise 1:02 AM 80
25 High 9:56 PM 8.0 8:57 PM Set 9:59 AM


Look forward to hearing your advise!!!
 

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WidgeonmanGH said:
Good days to go: Aprl 13, April 20, April 27,
Moderate days: May 4, 11,18, 25
stay home:

Su 13 High 12:16 AM 8.0 6:25 AM Set 3:49 AM 51
13 Low 6:35 AM 5.9 8:00 PM Rise 12:49 PM
13 High 9:07 AM 6.3
13 Low 5:07 PM 0.0

Good Morning tides on this day. The earlier the date the better to catch the migratory butts.

Su 20 High 3:38 AM 7.6 6:12 AM Set 5:51 AM 99
20 Low 10:43 AM -0.1 8:11 PM Rise 9:08 PM
20 High 5:59 PM 7.5
20 Low 10:59 PM 5.2
Skip this one

Su 27 Low 3:27 PM 0.2 5:59 AM Rise 2:33 AM 66
27 8:21 PM Set 10:58 AM

Missin data here...

Su 4 High 2:56 AM 8.1 5:48 AM Rise 4:54 AM 3
4 Low 9:05 AM -1.2 8:31 PM Set 8:12 PM
4 High 5:19 PM 7.6
4 Low 9:11 PM 5.0

This afternoon would be ok, but watch the wind or fog

Su 11 Low 5:05 AM 5.7 5:38 AM Set 2:17 AM 36
11 High 7:45 AM 6.1 8:40 PM Rise 11:55 AM
11 Low 3:27 PM -0.5
11 High 11:20 PM 8.3
Daylight to 9:00 maybe

Su 18 High 2:06 AM 7.5 5:29 AM Set 4:17 AM 95
18 Low 9:44 AM -0.8 8:49 PM Rise 8:07 PM
18 High 5:30 PM 7.7
18 Low 10:03 PM 6.0
Minus tide, fish around that evening flood

Su 25 Low 2:00 PM -0.7 5:21 AM Rise 1:02 AM 80
25 High 9:56 PM 8.0 8:57 PM Set 9:59 AM

Look forward to hearing your advise!!!
If I have a choice, Ill skip the days that have a minus tide near midday. If I dont have a choice, or am dead set on getting out, I increase the weight and fish the down current slopes of the banks. I think the first date is your best choice in terms of tides. Now, weather conditions and fog may make that one impossible so you may have to take a second or third choice. The pattern up here in the spring and summer is fog or wind in the afternoons. Be careful, it comes up quick in the spring.
 

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Thanks Elk,
On the one that was missing data, that is all they had. So I just figured it lined up funny (Am/PM on other days)?

If I understand the migration, early April further east, and then working toward Neah bay the later you get?
I hope the weather cooperates and I am able to get our a few times!
 

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If fishing hein:

Use black label hearing, tipped with squid(shove the squid inside the hearing). Fish the west side on the out going tide. Fish the east side on the incoming tide. When we caught hali out there we fished the south side of the bank, towards the yellow bouy. Most of the fish caught where in about 160ft of water. We did hook fish in deeper water, but managed to loose them do to NOT using circle hooks. Good luck and see you out there. Tup:
 

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The tide prediction for Apr 27th is complete.
This happens when consecutive tides are the same height. In this case there are back to back to back tides with no height change creating about 16hours of slack.

Here is the same prediction with my estimates of the missing numbers in red.
Sa
26 Low 2:33 PM -0.2
26 High 11:00 PM 7.6

Su
27 Low 4:00AM 7.6
27 High 7:30AM 7.6

27 Low 3:27 PM 0.2

Both too much and too little tidal movement is not good for halibut fishing. If there is no movement, the fish will be scattered and there is no urgency for them to feed.
 

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Ahhhhh that is how that works. (with the tides) even if they are scattered, if the weather is nice I will be out there, because I suspect the water will be nice as well. Use my kicker to move over the humps.

I will have to look into circle hooks a bit more. I understand the concept. What do you do if a fish is just tapping at it but not taking it (admittedly this may or may not be a halibut) of the five times we went out , we had one "bite" where the fish kept tapping it but not taking it down. I was under the impression (inexperienced) that they would just grab and go not tap at it. So we let it tap along for a bit, it never did take it and run. So do you set the hook with circle hooks or not?

I know some folks do seminars on this whole halibut fishing thing, they have always been in areas or times when I couldn't go. Right now our outdoor group at church is sponsoring a Turkey hunting clinic, but maybe we should sponsor a Halibut clinic. If you know of someone who does that (or if that is you) zap me a PM. I may like to arrange something like that.
 

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Circle hoooks were designed for the commercial long line application....they leave them out for days and the circle hooks work all by themselves without any hook setting. So, you just have to be patient, i have had hali's nibble around on a circle hook bait for 5 minutes before hooking themselves. It can be maddening watching that and very tough to resist the set the hook instinct LOL. But you really do need to wait until the hali has taken the bait and turned to leave...ie, the rod will be doubled over. Circle hooks aren't required and if you like setting the hook, there's nothing wrong with sticking to the good ole J hooks.

Circle hooks are poplular because they're such a solid, corner of the mouth hookup (once they finally get the thing in the corner of their mouths).
 

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If you use J hooks I like the 9/0 Gami that is barbless. They are sticky sharp.
 

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Go 120lb. mono leader with 13 OT circles work wonders with big bait. You can use pink salmon or octopus. I like big Alaskan herring with the roe in it. Cut it in half and put both of them on and spray it with wd 40. I use big reels at least 6 OT Sea line Diawa or Penns. I also use good heavy rods with Aftco double reel clamps and double line roller guides and singles double wrapped on a six foot Fenwick rod one piece custom made. 500 hundred yards of 80 LB. test dacron fishing line or Power pro these fish will test your gear and your body!!!!!! Don't fish cheap gear or cheap tackle. One fish I landed was 8 feet long and 72" across and took 3 shots from a four ten comb web cleaner. When the bottom does not move for five or ten minutes and rips line off your reel at a steady pace you will be glad you had it. One trophy like that does not come around that often unless your out of Kodiak. Good fishing! Tup:
 

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You can't just tell about that, comeon show a picture!!!! Tup:

I will be happy with consistent chickens at this point. :mrgreen:
 

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When your spending that much dough on a fishing trip one chicken is awful tuff to feed the family :!: Really burns my kahunas to see the Pacific Halibut Commission giving it all to the Longliners conf: . CCA might be able to help us on this issue also. :idea: Time to get those wallets out and spread the word CCA Tup:
 

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Fortunately it really isn't all that much money. I am less than an hour from John Wayne marina, and I have been adding to the gear slowly. So it is just a day trip for us. I just want to get one in the boat! Tup:

However, if gas keeps going up and up and up, that hurts.
 
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