[powder]

I read the fishing regulations pamphlet on my porcelain throne. Today when i got home from work i was readin up and flipped to the Nisqually. It reads as follows.

Salmon > July 1-Jan. 31 > Min. size 12". Daily limit 6. Up to 2 adults may be retained. Release wild adult CHINOOK.

The part i'm confused about is in bold. So i went to the "Definitions of Terms used throughout the Pamphlet" on page 24 and looked up "Adult Salmon." I read as follows.

In freshwater and Marine Areas 2-1 and 2-2, Chinook 24" or more in length; coho 20" or more in length; and pink, chum and sockeye salmon 12" or more in length, are adults.

My confusion is as follows. They set the limits at 6 fish on the Nisqually. The minimum size for those fish has to be 12" long from nose to tail. Per their definition of "Adult Salmon", chum salmon are adult at 12". So that makes the limit 2 fish?

Please deconfuse (a word?) me.

 

[Smalma]

Yes, the limit on chum salmon would be 2!

The six fish limit with 2 adults allow anglers to keep Chinook and coho Jacks until they keep thier two adults. However since chum and pinks normally don't produce Jacks (thus the adult definition for them being any fish over 12 inches).

Tight lines
Curt

 

[powder]

Ok, that's what i thought. Thanks.

 

[nastyangler]

All returning Chums are adults. You are right, the limit is 2.

 

[fishgitter]

Wow how could you be so confused ? The regs. are so straight forward and easy to understand :lol:

 

[Webo]

Just out of curiosity... how would you have worded it so that everybody understands it AND it covers all of the legal bases?

 

[GURU]

Just out of curiosity... how would you have worded it so that everybody understands it AND it covers all of the legal bases?

Salmon: Daily Limit 2 with 4 additional jacks, is what I think it should say, sounds easier to understand, may just be me though :?

 

[Webo]

That's pretty good GURU... what is a jack though?

The reg in question seems pretty straight-forward to me?

Salmon fishing in the Nisqually river is open from July 1 to January 31.
6 salmon TOTAL may be retained.
only 2 of that total may be ADULT salmon (fish over the specified size limit given right there for each species)
RELEASE wild (unclipped) Chinook.

What am I missing?

 

[powder]

Chinook: Daily limit 2 adults over 24" and 4 additional jacks. Release wild adults.
Coho: Daily limit 2 adults over 20" and 4 additonal jacks.
Pink, Chum and Sockeye: min size 12". Daily limit 2.
6 fish total daily limit.

These rules may be changed whenever we deem necessary. :lol:

 

[Webo]

That IS good Powder! Clear, concise and everything was included... good job!

 

[THE TRAPPER]

Wow how could you be so confused ? The regs. are so straight forward and easy to understand :lol:

IN A PIG'S EYE!
"TRAPPER"

 

[volynsky]

Chinook: Daily limit 2 adults over 24" and 4 additional jacks. Release wild adults.
Coho: Daily limit 2 adults over 20" and 4 additonal jacks.
Pink, Chum and Sockeye: min size 12". Daily limit 2.
6 fish total daily limit.

These rules may be changed whenever we deem necessary. :lol:

clearer than the "old" rules? probably

But its also noted that more words/details are being provided in these "new" rules, plus it now spans several lines, instead of 1 or 2 lines in the old rules.

What all this means is that if more specific rules like these are provided for each river, then the regs will end up being 500 pages long.

It's kinda a tradeoff like that commonly encountered in the rulemaking process: keep it short (and hopefully sufficiently clear) and open to interpretation, or make it more detailed/clearer but it will end up being too long for people to spend the time to understand.

 

[nastyangler]

Daily limit 2 adults over 24" and 4 additional jacks. Someone might think they could keep 4 jacks after taking 2 adults. :?

 

[powder]

Daily limit 2 adults over 24" and 4 additional jacks. Someone might think they could keep 4 jacks after taking 2 adults. :?

If the limits are 6 then you can.

 

[nastyangler]

After you catch your adult limit of salmon you must stop fishing for salmon.

 

[powder]

Where does it say that? Not arguing, just curious.

 

[nastyangler]

SPORT FISHING RULES 2007/2008 pamphlet page 27.
Statewide General Rules
You May Not:
Continue to fish for SALMON after the adult portion of the daily limit has been retained.

 

[powder]

SPORT FISHING RULES 2007/2008 pamphlet page 27.
Statewide General Rules
You May Not:
Continue to fish for SALMON after the adult portion of the daily limit has been retained.

I see. Ok, thanks.

 

[THE TRAPPER]

Yup! "TRAPPER"

 

[fishinfoolz]

That's when you start fishing for Steelhead or Trout-