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Do you guys think HolmMogren is coming back? Mora interviewed at Washington and then said "no" he was staying
in Seattle. I gotta think that means he thinks he is going to be our new head coach. The guys on 950am sports
radio are praying Holmgren stays. They act like he is God... or at least his cousin or something. I don't know much
about this Mora. Other than his defense doesn't play well on the road. Is Holmgren really that good? Or did a basic
change of philosophy from the owner make the difference those years ago. I personally don't want a coach that is
even considering retirement. If retirement is so appealing, then get on with it. Let someone else have the job.
But... on the other hand... The Devil you know....
 

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Holmie is definitely coming back. He really likes this team and knows that he is just a step away from going out of coaching with a SuperBowl victory for Seattle. Mora will replace him and do just fine, but it wont happen this year. I think Holmgren has had a lot to do with Seattle's success for sure, probably more then anyone. If he wouldn't have came to Seattle, there would be no Hasslebeck and we would probably still be going through quarterbacks like Kelly Stouffer and the likes before Matt was brought in. I just cant think that the Seahawks would have taken off without him like they have. I hope he comes back. Tup:
 

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I think Holmgren has had a lot to do with Seattle's success for sure, probably more then anyone. If he wouldn't have came to Seattle, there would be no Hasslebeck and we would probably still be going through quarterbacks like Kelly Stouffer and the likes before Matt was brought in. I just cant think that the Seahawks would have taken off without him like they have. I hope he comes back. Tup:
I couldn't agree more !!!! Holmgren is the best thing to ever happen to the hawks.
 

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Red Neckersom said:
I think Holmgren has had a lot to do with Seattle's success for sure, probably more then anyone. If he wouldn't have came to Seattle, there would be no Hasslebeck and we would probably still be going through quarterbacks like Kelly Stouffer and the likes before Matt was brought in. I just cant think that the Seahawks would have taken off without him like they have. I hope he comes back. Tup:
I couldn't agree more !!!! Holmgren is the best thing to ever happen to the hawks.
I thrid that! The Holmgren nay sayers are knuckleheads. :p
 

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He's a great coach. No argument. But he is done here. Time for him to move on. Dont fool yourself. Mora did not go accross country, interview and stay overnight at Snyders home just to pull out.

He has been told the team is his. If not NOW then next year.

THANK GOODNESS! clap:
 

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Ice, you are suffering from BBQ sauce toxic shock syndrome. If Holmgren asks Paul Allen for an extension, I would be willing to bet that Allen would give it to him. What is too bad is that Hudson Houck, the O line coach chose to go to Dallas over Seattle. Look for Seattle and Mike Holmgren to explore the possibility of hiring a new O line coach to improve the line play.

Mora is the heir apparent for the Seattle job when it becomes available. I doubt Mora wanted to uproot his family and move them to the WA DC area. Mora really likes it here and he doesn't seem to be in any great hurry to get another head coaching job right now. He is young enough that he can afford to wait a while longer. He has done a great job with the secondary here but I don't think the team is in any hurry to push Holmgren out despite Iceshark's numerous voice mails on Ruskel's phone. :D
 

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what do you mean he is done..he just won the division again and won a playoff game..in football that means you are a sucess...he wants to move into the new practice facility... light:
 

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Ice, you are suffering from BBQ sauce toxic shock syndrome. If Holmgren asks Paul Allen for an extension, I would be willing to bet that Allen would give it to him. What is too bad is that Hudson Houck, the O line coach chose to go to Dallas over Seattle. Look for Seattle and Mike Holmgren to explore the possibility of hiring a new O line coach to improve the line play.
Not from all I am reading and hearing on Fox and ESPN. They say that Holmgren is very close to exiting the coaching areana. He is supposedly not wanting to be not proffesional and is waiting to make decision till after the super bowl. That very cool of him. They are split on thinking he may be done now or wants one more year. They said the ownership in Seattle is open to giving him one more year but is getting frustrated with him.

Come on now, your a good football guy. Sorry but Mora did not back out of a head coaching job at the last minute just because he likes him some Seattle living.

Its all but done for Holmbren and I like lots of others here say THANK GOODNESS clap:
 

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I would say that the Mora decision definitely indicates that Holmgren will not be coming back. I will not be dancing in the street however, Holmgren is a great coach who will enter the Hall of Fame on the first ballot.
 

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Ice, John Clayton was commenting yesterday on his show that he thinks when Holmgren finally hangs it up here, that will be it for him. Also, Holmgren has told the team that he will have a decision for them by Tuesday or Wednesday. Holmgren had a Hawaii vacation scheduled for after the Super Bowl due to his believing that the team would have been still playing but he moved the decision making up because they lost in GB.
 

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Also Mike Kahn who covers the team has reported that the decision will come probably Thursday or Friday of this week. I think Holmgren sees this team as being very close to another Super Bowl. As things laid out, they were a snow storm away from playing today and if they were playing today at home against the Giants they would be a 7 point favorite to go to the Superbowl.
 

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I think Holmgren has been a big part of making the Seahawks one of the most succesful teams of the past 5 years or so. I think he will stay for next year and likely sign an extension for a year or two. He may not coach the full term of the extension, but it's good to have in place for team stability. As for Mora, I do believe that he wants to stay in the area. I think he sees two potential head coaching jobs that may come up in the next year or so here in Seattle.I think he wants to be a head coach, but I think he wants to be a head coach here at home with his family.
 

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Also Mike Kahn who covers the team has reported that the decision will come probably Thursday or Friday of this week. I think Holmgren sees this team as being very close to another Super Bowl. As things laid out, they were a snow storm away from playing today and if they were playing today at home against the Giants they would be a 7 point favorite to go to the Superbowl.
The team is not close to a super bowl. He wants a Parcells type job as a VP of operations. He is a control freak and you watch. HE IS GONE! YESSSSSSSSS!

Lets be real First off the Seahawks won the weakest division in football. This was not big feat. The hawks played great at times and very poor at times against easy opponents. I really was impressed with the last few games but I would not say even the hawks themselfs would be banging there own super bowl drum if asked after this season. They are a very good team. But like the sportswritters said. They easily beat another mediocre playoff team in the wild card game and then got to the real playoffs and got it handed to them.

I think the coach called a bad game. Plus lacks empowerment and drive like the other playoff caliber coaches show. He used to have it and like mr Big tuna has lost it at a coaching level. Let him go be a VP somewhere. Then the hawks will grow. If he stays the team can only go backwards with him. Hes done!
 

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Holmgren says extension possible beyond 2008

Seattle Times staff columnist Steve Kelley

Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren let down his guard and kept his options open during a wrap-up news conference Tuesday.
KIRKLAND â€" After exposing his soul for more than a half-hour Tuesday in a news conference that often felt and sounded more like a therapy session, Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren offered a third option for his future that nobody in the room had considered.

If we thought Holmgren's only options were staying for the final year of his contract, or retiring to a life away from the sideline, Holmgren suggested another idea â€" a contract extension past next season.

"I'm open, maybe, to a third option," Holmgren said to a standing-room-only crowd of about 40 reporters and camera people.
 

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dmack wrote: Ice,
Do you think Holmgrem will get fired??? Do you think Homgren should get fired??? Do you think Holmgren will retire???

no no, you dont fire hall of fame coaches. He has earned his stripes. :?
 

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Ice, I love yah but you are wrong once again.

1st of all, the Patriots won the weakest division in football as they have the Jets and Dolphins in their division.
Secondly. this team was the 3rd best team in the NFC at the end of the year WITHOUT a running game.
Defense is young and will be good for quite some time
Offense is where they need help, develop a running game and they will be fine.

As for your comment earlier about Fox and ESPN reporting that they think he will retire, he might, but, the guy on Fox (Jay Glazer I think was his name) was saying before the GB/NYG game that Holmgren is going to quit and his source was: Korin Robinson. Not my idea of a good source.
 

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Red Neckersom said:
I think Holmgren has had a lot to do with Seattle's success for sure, probably more then anyone. If he wouldn't have came to Seattle, there would be no Hasslebeck and we would probably still be going through quarterbacks like Kelly Stouffer and the likes before Matt was brought in. I just cant think that the Seahawks would have taken off without him like they have. I hope he comes back. Tup:
I couldn't agree more !!!! Holmgren is the best thing to ever happen to the hawks.
ABSOLUTLY!! Holmgren IS the best thing to EVER happen to the Seahawks... Tup: He WILL be back, and I HOPE he gets a much deserved extention. Tup:
Yes- Mora WILL be the next Seahawks Head coach...BUT---NOT next year.. clap: (If he dosent jump ship to the Coach the Huskies after they FIRE Willingham next year) :eek:
 

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Top 25 head coaches all time in NFL by EA Sports

They have build a Top 25 head coaches of all time and here they are:

25. Jimmy Conzelman
You want hardcore coaching simulations, well, it doesn't get any more hardcore than Jimmy Conzelman. That's right, if you don't know, this was one bad man, as he was actually a player/coach. Forget what you know about quarterbacks looking to the sidelines for plays and getting all flustered when the radio in their helmet dies. Conzelman was a real field general, calling plays as coach and delivering the pass from his quarterback position. After suffering a knee injury in 1928, Conzelman the coach led his Providence Steam Roller team to the NFL title. Conzelman also went on to coach the Chicago Cardinals, winning the NFL title in 1947. This might be a name a lot of younger gamers will recognize, but you have to recognize the fact that Conzelman is a legend every fan should become more familiar with.

24. George Allen
Two-time NFL Coach of the Year, George Allen never suffered through a losing season in 12 years at the top. He was Jon Gruden before anyone ever thought of Chucky, as Allen was a workaholic who believed his office was home and sleep was a hobby. George Allen was the type of coach who could walk into a losing situation and turn things around quickly thanks to his determination and tireless work ethic. At the time of his retirement, his 118-54-5 record was tenth best all time.

23. Ray Flaherty
Football would not look like it does today without Ray Flaherty, the Boston/Washington Redskins coach who with the help of Sammy Baugh, introduced the behind-the-line screen pass to the sport in the 1937 NFL title game against the Bears. But that wasn't the only innovation the legendary coach introduced to the league. He also was the first coach to utilize a two-platoon system, one unit for passing, the other unit emphasizing the run. Flaherty ended up winning two NFL championships with the Redskins and his overall coaching run totaled an impressive 80-37-5 mark.

22. Hank Stram
A true innovator of the sport, Hank Stram was the man behind such things as the two tight end offense, the moving pocket, and the stack defense. He is also the only AFL coach to lead his team to two Super Bowls, and his win in Super Bowl IV helped earn credibility and respect to the fledgling league. Throughout his 17 year head coaching career, Stram earned a record of 131-97-10, and is still remembered as one of the key figures in Chiefs history.

21. Dick Vermeil
The coach who proved it's okay to cry, Dick Vermeil was so burned out in 1982 he abruptly quit coaching only to comeback 15 years later and take over the Rams, a move that would not only win him a Super Bowl, but cement his legacy as one of the few coaches able to step away for any prolonged period of time and still find success. After winning the Super Bowl, Vermeil walked away from the game again, only to come back for one last run with the Kansas City Chiefs before finally retiring for good after the 2005 season. If there was ever a coach players loved to play for, it was Vermeil, the kind of coach who added heart to his hard work and was never afraid to get emotional when it came to standing up for the players he loved.

20. Sid Gillman
Call him the innovator. The man who made pro football what it is today. Without Sid Gillman and his downfield passing attack, you'd be getting the dink and dunk on Sunday afternoons and the NFL might never have taken off in popularity the way it has. In fact, Sid Gillman laid the foundation back in the AFL with the Chargers of what the West Coast Offense is today. He was also the first coach to win division titles with both the AFL and NFL, and it was his idea to place names on the back of jerseys. If that isn't enough, it was actually Sid Gillman's idea for the AFL champion to play the NFL champion, a game that eventually became the Super Bowl. A true genius of the sport.

19. Marty Schottenheimer
My first big objection to the list. I don't care how many wins he was able to compile by longevity, Marty Schottenheimer can't win in the playoffs, and isn't that what it's all about? His career playoff record is 5-12, proving that he can't make the adjustments necessary to out-coach whoever is on the opposite sidelines. How his name appears on this list, ahead of coaches who actually won a Super Bowl, I'll never know.

18. Weeb Ewbank
Weeb Ewbank coached two of the biggest games in NFL history, two games that ultimately helped the NFL become what it is today. Back in 1958, Ewbank coached his Colts to an overtime win against the Giants, 23-17, in a game still referred to as "The greatest game ever played". But that wasn't even the biggest win in Ewbank's career. Namath made the guarantee, but Ewbank was the coach behind the Jets victory in Super Bowl III, a landmark game that helped turn the Super Bowl into spectacle while at the same time legitimizing the AFL and its players to the nation.

17. Jimmy Johnson
How about them Cowboys! The first coach to win a NCAA Division 1A title and a Super Bowl title, Johnson is the ultimate talent evaluator, building his Cowboy champs largely through the draft. Became only the third coach to win back-to-back Super Bowls before parting ways with Jerry Jones after the Cowboys owner decided to take most of the credit for the wins. Johnson (and his helmet hair) later took over as head coach of the Dolphins, building the defense around players like Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas. Unfortunately for Dan Marino, Johnson fell short of bringing Miami a title and is now known for his stint as a television analyst on Fox.

16. John Madden
You might know him through his videogame or for his announcing, but John Madden is more than just a booming personality. Back when Madden took over the Raiders in 1974, he was the youngest head coach in the NFL and went on to guide the team to an overall record of 103-32-7, the best winning percentage of any coach in NFL history with over 100 wins. Madden led the Raiders to Super Bowl victory in 1976, then retired from the sidelines only a couple of years later as the stress of the game was taking a toll on the big man. John Madden has now become the most celebrated football announcer in history, winning 14 Sports Emmy Awards.

15. Mike Shanahan
Sometimes, almost getting killed on the field can do your career some good. That's right, Mike Shanahan, while playing as a quarterback at Eastern Illinois, took a hit so hard one practice he ruptured a kidney, and as the story goes, almost died. That severe hit sent Shanahan from the playing field to the sideline, starting a career that has seen him amass two Super Bowl wins with the Denver Broncos, and he's not done yet. Shanahan's offensive system in Denver is so brilliant, he can plug in almost any back and watch them find success, and with the talent he's accumulated in Denver, many are predicting a return trip to the Super Bowl in 2007. Can he win one without John Elway? That's the question that has followed him for years, and will continue to haunt him until, well, he wins one without John Elway.

14. Marv Levy
Marv Levy was able to do what no other coach in history has ever done: Lead his team to four straight Super Bowls. If the Bills win just one, Levy moves up this list. If they win multiple rings, Levy would be near the top. But even with all of the wide kicks and superstars who forgot their helmets, what Levy accomplished with the Bills is still nothing short of amazing. Levy was named AFC Coach of the Year in 1988, 1993, and 1995 and was NFL Coach of the Year in 1988. His no-huddle offense was the stuff of legends and finished his career with a record of 154-120-0.

13. Bill Cowher
Longevity. That's not a word you associate with NFL head coaches these days, but Bill Cowher has earned his years in Pittsburgh, turning his trademark snarl and spit into Super Bowl victory. Cowher has coached the Steelers since 1992 and has a career record of 138-86-1, has only three losing seasons under his watch, and is just the second head coach to lead his team to the playoffs his first six seasons. Bill Cowher is also the first coach selected to be on the cover of NFL Head Coach. The city of Pittsburgh hopes this is one cover that comes without the curse.

12. Bud Grant
An amazing athlete, Bud Grant actually played in both the NBA and NFL before becoming a coach. Grant won two titles with the Minneapolis Lakers then moved on to the Eagles to become the second leading receiver in the NFL in 1952. As head coach of the Vikings, Grant led his team to an incredible 10 division titles in 11 seasons, including the 1969 NFL Championship (losing to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl) to go along with NFC titles in 1973, 1974, and 1976. A mirror of Marv Levy, Grant was the first coach to lead his team to four Super Bowls, then went on to lose each one.

11. Mike Holmgren
What do Joe Montanta, Steve Young, Brett Favre, and Matt Hasselbeck have in common? They all credit Mike Homgren with helping them perfect the quarterback position, and in turn have all led teams to the Super Bowl from under center. As head coach of the Packers, Holmgren led Green Bay to two Super Bowl appearances, including a victory over the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XXXI. After leaving the Packers for Seattle, Homgren became only the fifth coach in NFL history to lead two different franchises to the Super Bowl, losing to the Steelers in Super Bowl XL.

10. Dan Reeves
Player turned player-coach turned coach, Dan Reeves has the most wins of any head coach who has not won a Super Bowl. Turned the Broncos into a powerhouse with the help of John Elway, appearing in the playoffs six times while making three appearances in the Super Bowl with Denver. Best coaching job of his career, however, would come years later. Reeves took over a 3-13 Falcons team and turned them into Super Bowl contenders, losing, ironically enough, to his old team, the Broncos. Dan Reeves has a career mark of 201-174-2, and he credits his former coach, Tom Landry, for teaching him everything he knows about ruling the sidelines.

9. Earl Lambeau
The founder of the frozen tundra, Earl "Curly" Lambeau is the man who helped put the small-town Packers in the NFL. Lambeau was instrumental in forming the franchise in 1919 and helped the team achieve success as both a player and a coach. In fact, Lambeau's Packers won six NFL Championships under his watch (1929, 1930, 1931, 1936, 1939, 1944) and he went on to coach in the NFL for 33 years. He is credited with being the first passing coach in the league, and the Packers air attack was years ahead of its time, helping Lambeau collect 229 wins throughout his career as a head coach.

8. Bill Walsh
Genius. The nickname says it all as Bill Walsh helped turn a terrible San Francisco franchise into the team of the 80s, changing the offensive game of the league as we know it, and passing his knowledge to a variety of assistants who continue to this day winning games based on his philosophies. In 10 seasons as the 49ers coach, Walsh's record was 102-63-1, including a 10-4 mark in the postseason. Walsh specialized in working with quarterbacks, and is credited with the success of everyone from Dan Fouts to Joe Montana, but is often overlooked for his expertise in the draft, as he was responsible for drafting superstars like Ronnie Lott and Jerry Rice.

7. Vince Lombardi
Five championships in ten years. That about says it all, as does the fact that the Super Bowl trophy is named for maybe the most famous (and most quoted) football coach of all time. Some of his famous quotes include:

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

"If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?"

"It's not whether you get knocked down, it's whether you get up."

"If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, you will be fired with enthusiasm."

"Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence."

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser."

6. Joe Gibbs
One of the most successful coaches the league has ever seen, Joe Gibbs won three Super Bowls, and four NFC Championships with the Redskins. Upon retiring, Gibbs was enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1996, then went on to have a successful career in NASCAR before being lured back by the richest coaching contract in NFL history to rejoin the Redskins. Gibbs' impact was immediate, as in only his second year, he helped lead the team to their first playoff birth since 1999.

5. Chuck Noll
Created a dynasty in Pittsburgh, turning the Steelers into the team of the 70s with four Super Bowl wins. Coached the Steelers for 23 seasons, but after a first-year record of 1-13, who could've predicted a Hall of Fame career and four titles for a team that hadn't won a championship in almost 40 years pre-Noll. Compiled a 209-156-1 record, including 16-8 in the postseason, by building his team through the draft year-after-year. His teams finished with winning records in 15 of his final 20 seasons as the Steelers head coach.

4. George Halas
His numbers are staggering. George Halas coached the Bears for 40 years (imagine Lovie Smith as coach 40 years from now). He won six NFL titles (the first in 1921), 318 regular-season games, and 324 total, records that stood until 1993. But look beyond the numbers to see the influence of George Halas. He was the first coach to hold daily practice sessions, and the first to study game film. If you ever visit the Hall of Fame, you'll know Halas' place amongst the greats, as the Hall is actually located on George Halas Drive.

3. Paul Brown
Paul Brown suffered only one losing season in 17 years. Throughout his career, Brown recorded a mark of 167-53-8, including three NFL championships and four AAFC titles. How did he do? By innovation, of course. Brown was first to grade his players based on film study, first to call plays from the sidelines, first to give players intelligence tests, and first to keep his players at a hotel the night before both home and road games. Brown also drew up some of the most complicated pass patterns of his time, confusing defenses and capitalizing on gaping holes other coaches weren't able to find.

2. Tom Landry
If winning games in the playoffs is what really shows the skill of a coach, Landry is king with 20 career playoff victories, 5 NFC titles, and 2 Super Bowl championships. Coached the Cowboys to 20 consecutive winning seasons, that's right, 20 consecutive winning seasons, a mark that is not only mind-blowing in the NFL, but in any sport imaginable. Invented the 4-3 defense, the Flex defense, defensive keys to analyze offensive tendencies, and brought pre-shifting, the shotgun and man-in-motion back in vogue.

1. Don Shula
The only perfect record in NFL history. How do you beat that? You don't. Don Shula is the winningest coach in NFL history with a career record of 347-173-6. Shula-coached teams reached the playoffs 20 times in 33 years, including six Super Bowl appearances and his teams won 10 games or more a staggering 21 times. Led the 1972 Dolphins to a perfect 17-0-0 season, capping off the historic campaign with a 14-7 win over the Washington Redskins
 
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