My buddy steve talked to andre today- he survived and is thanking his lucy stars and licking his wounds. it was his first trip on a river with it 9 and hpoefully his last. he did go down with the toon but was able to pop up down river a bit (very lucky) and was stranded there for some time as there wasnt anyone comming down river that day. a neighbor across the rive heard him yelling for help and launched his boat and came to the rescue. we will be getting his toon and gear back to him this week - thanks for your concerns - cptn ron