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It's war out there... sick:

3/11/08 CHICAGO - At least one in four teenage girls nationwide has a sexually transmitted disease, or more than 3 million teens, according to the first study of its kind in this age group.

A virus that causes cervical cancer is by far the most common sexually transmitted infection in teen girls aged 14 to 19, while the highest overall prevalence is among black girls â€" nearly half the blacks studied had at least one STD. That rate compared with 20 percent among both whites and Mexican-American teens, the study from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found.

About half of the girls acknowledged ever having sex; among them, the rate was 40 percent. While some teens define sex as only intercourse, other types of intimate behavior including oral sex can spread some infections

For many, the numbers likely seem "overwhelming because you're talking about nearly half of the sexually experienced teens at any one time having evidence of an STD," said Dr. Margaret Blythe, an adolescent medicine specialist at Indiana University School of Medicine and head of the American Academy of Pediatrics' committee on adolescence.

But the study highlights what many doctors who treat teens see every day, Blythe said.

Dr. John Douglas, director of the CDC's division of STD prevention, said the results are the first to examine the combined national prevalence of common sexually transmitted diseases among adolescent girls. He said the data, from 2003-04, likely reflect current rates of infection.

"High STD rates among young women, particularly African-American young women, are clear signs that we must continue developing ways to reach those most at risk," Douglas said.

The CDC's Dr. Kevin Fenton said given that STDs can cause infertility and cervical cancer in women, "screening, vaccination and other prevention strategies for sexually active women are among our highest public health priorities."

The study by CDC researcher Dr. Sara Forhan is an analysis of nationally representative data on 838 girls who participated in a 2003-04 government health survey. Teens were tested for four infections: human papillomavirus, or HPV, which can cause cervical cancer and affected 18 percent of girls studied; chlamydia, which affected 4 percent; trichomoniasis, 2.5 percent; and herpes simplex virus, 2 percent.

Blythe said the results are similar to previous studies examining rates of those diseases individually.

The results were prepared for release Tuesday at a CDC conference in Chicago on preventing sexually transmitted diseases.

HPV can cause genital warts but often has no symptoms. A vaccine targeting several HPV strains recently became available, but Douglas said it likely has not yet had much impact on HPV prevalence rates in teen girls.

Chlamydia and trichomoniasis can be treated with antibiotics. The CDC recommends annual chlamydia screening for all sexually active women under age 25. It also recommends the three-dose HPV vaccine for girls aged 11-12 years, and catch-up shots for females aged 13 to 26.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has similar recommendations.

Douglas said screening tests are underused in part because many teens don't think they're at risk, but also, some doctors mistakenly think, '"Sexually transmitted diseases don't happen to the kinds of patients I see.'"

Blythe said some doctors also are reluctant to discuss STDs with teen patients or offer screening because of confidentiality concerns, knowing parents would have to be told of the results.
 

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Well there goes the Toilet seat theory. And there goes the afternoon delight.
 

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Like I told you before ff, girls are beginning puberty on average, 2 years earlier than their grandmothers. Their bodies are telling them to "get busy" so they aren't likely to hear the "abstinence" message. Stereotyping them as tramps does no good either. Time for new approaches. How about we stop treating them like children and treat them like young adults.
 

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Yeah you're right. You're so smart. They're probably gonna smoke pot to so we might as well buy a big bag of gonja and fire it up. They're also gonna probably drink too so we might as well buy a bottle of Tequila and hammer a few back. They're probably gonna get pregnant some day too so we might as well set'm up with Spitzer. Some might even turn to prostitution so we might as well get jobs as political inturns. Since when did parents start allowing kids to dictate the time and place for certain activities to become acceptable? clown:

Tell ya what...You go ahead and buy YOUR kids the booze the dope the pills the condoms and be the best parent you can be with whatever message you've got. I'm pulling for ya.. Tup: I'll keep my message the same thank you. Tup:

Anyway... Back to the topic..It's 1 in 4. That is alarming.
 

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What is alarming is that you keep preaching your puritanical values and expecting a different outcome. Attempting to keep them virgins has never worked. Maybe we should beat them to death like some Muslim extremists?

Obviously YOUR approach doesn't work, since 1 in 4....

As for the drug comments, I guess you would know more about them than I do.
 

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So petty... clown: clap: You deliver exactly what I expect. clap:

My approach has only been executed in one household and it works just fine thank you. Tup:

I think I'll start calling you Petty Betty... :mrgreen: :D
 

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I think I'll start calling you Petty Betty...

Once You Resort To Personal Attacks, You've Already Lost The Debate.
If that makes you "feel" better, then by all means, go for it. Nobody on here ever accused you of behaving with common decency that's for sure.

Not to mention, you have a fixation with underage girls and sex.
 

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clown: C'mon now misses no stereotyping.. clown:

Really now, do you have a serious comment or solution or preventive measure to suggest in order to combat this epidemic, or do you just like to play Petty Betty? :roll:
 

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Once You Resort To Personal Attacks, You've Already Lost The Debate.
I think you answered your own question with your signature.

Of course I have answers. Being FEMALE, I'm an authority on being FEMALE. You are not. You just have a fixation on children.
 

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The most prevalent STD in this study, by a wide margin, was HPV.

Considering that 1 in 2 sexually active people will contract HPV at some point in their lives, this study's results don't seem that surprising.

Most HPV infections cause no symptoms or health problems. In 90% of cases the body's immune system clears the infection naturally within 2 years.

There is a HPV vaccine.

http://www.cdc.gov/STD/HPV/STDFact-HPV.htm#common
 

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Awww, FS...you've managed to start another thread that ticked somebody off. Good for you!

You're on a roll...keep it up! clap:
Wow... Another one with reading comprehension issues.

You need to pay a little closer attention there dinner. I didn't start the thread. I also don't have a fixation on girls having sex like FF does. If you actually paid attention, you would see he's been involved in several discussions of late, concerning girls having sex. I suppose it could be worse. At least he isn't fixated on boys having sex. In fact, men bear no responsibility in his view. Just girls and women who are sluts. :roll:
 

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Viva Girls having sex, hopefully with boys. Just makes sure the Boys and Girls get their shots. With the link between HPV and Cervical Cancer so well documented why would any girl/parents not opt for the shot?
 

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Viva Girls having sex, hopefully with boys. Just makes sure the Boys and Girls get their shots. With the link between HPV and Cervical Cancer so well documented why would any girl/parents not opt for the shot?
Sorry Jabba, there is no place for common sense in FF's world view. I think he prefers the scarlet letter approach.
 

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Petty Betty, are you a dumb blond or do you just play one here? clown: Your incessant Petty Betty bickering is quite telling of someone who preaches from high atop some fantasy pedestal. :?

Seriously, you seem to have a REAL problem with engaging in a meaningful discussion. Why is that? Is it the Obama "empty vessel" syndrome? It shows in nearly every post. It's quite sad. For someone who claims to be an authority ON EVERYTHING you provide nothing of substance. clap: An "authority"? OK :roll:

Your stances are also hypocritical. Let me get this straight. I have a "fixation" with "girls having sex" because I've been involved in "several discussions of late" but you have been involved in the same discussions as well. Does that mean YOU have a "fixation" with girls having sex too? What would that make you a lesbian? :eek: . :? What it makes me is a concerned father and grandfather and you contrary position and refusal to accept or at least acknowledge these problems just shows a lack of awareness which in fact (adult complacency) is one of the contributing problems with youth illnesses whether mental or physical.

You attack Fish4Dinner for an alleged lack of reading comprehension when your mis-understanding of simple concepts show a far greater lack of understanding. For instance, you said, "men have no responsibility in his view" when in fact I've written this.

Fishinfoolz said:
How men have capitalized on the naiveté' and exploitation of young girls which helps contribute to the multi billion dollar internet porn industry and feed the proliferation of drug abuse, or maybe how the majority of young women are viewed as nothing more than sex objects to be used and discarded after their useful purpose has been exhausted. Or maybe we can start with Hollywood and advertisers using younger and younger pre teen girls to sell products while scantily clothed. Maybe we can talk about how that portrayal of women as sex objects causes impressionable youths to engage in sex at ages earlier and earlier with every passing year. We could talk about how the over sexualization of our children is in part the catalyst for increasing numbers of under aged gang rapes and attacks against young girls on school buses and even in the classrooms in some public schools.
Let's take this on sentence at a time real slow so can keep up. Tup:

First sentence; I have clearly laid blame on "men" for the "exploitation and the explosion of the "porn" industry as well as the proliferation of "drug abuse" as well as girls being viewed as merely "sex objects". So if men are not viewing them as sex objects who are, women? Nope. Men! So again you are wrong. Sorry.
Second sentence; "Hollywood" advertisers. Who do think comprise the majority of "advertisers" women? Nope. Men make up the vast majority of corporate advertising companies big wigs. So again you are wrong. Sorry.
Third sentence; I spoke of "rapes and attacks against young girls on school buses". Who in the hell do you think are raping these girls, other girls? Good grief. Again. Sorry.

Before you go on another Petty Betty bickering tangent maybe YOU should stop and think for a change about what you're writing because there must be some disconnect between what your eyes read and how your brain interprets the words. Unless you're like some people who simply skim over the material looking for something objectionable.

Now then... Do you have anything useful to add to the discussion? You are an "authority" right? Well then...Let's hear some wisdom.. Tup:
 

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Actually, I think most people don't give a damn about your thread or your views. Even your pathetic insults are a bore, especially since you resort to them when YOU lose a debate and this one was lost before you started.

And yes, we can see that you seem to be obsessed with this topic of girls having sex. Does your wife know your days are preoccupied in this manner? I guess she probably has had her legs clenched tightly together for so long, you want all females to follow suit. If you can't get any, you don't want anyone else to either, since we KNOW the service of a hooker offends your puritanical morality.

Sure explains your woman hating and woman bashing all the time too. :lol:
 

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1 in 4, wow that is really sad. It doesn't have to be like that though. If they taught something useful in highschool IN ADDITION to abstinence, maybe that rate would go down. I went to a fairly liberal highschool, yet all they "taught" us was abstinence. Come on guys, we all know that abstinence doesn't work. No matter how much parents tell there kids not to do it, there's always gonna be that percentage who choose to do so.
 

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Man that sure was authoritative! clown: I've rarely seen such well delivered articulate repertoire of thought...Whew!!! I've got to go relax so I can absorb it all.. :lol: Like I've said before...You're so smart. clown: Hey I've got idea Petty Betty. light: ..Don't read my posts if you can't handle the content. Tup: Betcha you can't. If my threads are sooooo boring, stop responding. light:

SilverSlayer, C'mon now. What high school did you go to that only taught abstinence? I've NEVER heard of that please enlighten me. To the contrary, abstinence proponents have fought for years to get permission from liberal progressive school administrators to start some type of abstinence education as opposed to the constant barrage of subject matter like how to properly put a condom on a banana or the absurd notion that their schools should be responsible in handing out birth control to minor children without parental consent.

For the last 30+ years (ever since the age of "free love") spurred by the Viet Nam War and the rebellious Woodstock hippy era our children have been inundated with sexual symbolism. In ads, on TV and unfortunately in our public school by liberal secular progressive teachers who indoctrinate children with their ideologies so pervasive in fact that it's spread into every day life like a flu virus.

If abstinence was in fact taught in public schools along side of responsible practices instead of promoting sexual behavior at the forefront, and we still had this problem of epidemic proportions then I would agree that a change was needed. But as it stands right now without those poor kids in public schools being given a fair and balanced perspective (especially the ones whose parents are as dumb as they are) we are heading for that 1 in 4 number to become 2 in 4. I wonder how bad this problem has to get before people start questioning the educational and parental practices that have failed...
 

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If abstinence was in fact taught in public schools along side of responsible practices instead of promoting sexual behavior at the forefront, and we still had this problem of epidemic proportions then I would agree that a change was needed. But as it stands right now without those poor kids in public schools being given a fair and balanced perspective (especially the ones whose parents are as dumb as they are) we are heading for that 1 in 4 number to become 2 in 4. I wonder how bad this problem has to get before people start questioning the educational and parental practices that have failed...
I went to public high school and middle school and we were always taught that abstinence was the #1 method of avoiding STDs and teen pregnancy, and that it was the ONLY method that was 100% effective.

None of my teachers gave me lessons on how to score chicks... :roll: :lol:

Based on the study's results and what we know about HPV is there really a problem? I really don't know. HPV is harmless in the large majority of cases and there is a vaccine for the strand or strands(?) that can lead to cervical cancer.

If there is a problem, what is it? Is it that teens have STDs or that they're having sex in the first place?

Is the concern about health issues or social issues?

Statistically, 3 of the posters in this thread have had, will have, or currently have an HPV (STD) infection. :eek:
 

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I went to public high school and middle school and we were always taught that abstinence was the #1 method of avoiding STDs and teen pregnancy, and that it was the ONLY method that was 100% effective.

None of my teachers gave me lessons on how to score chicks... :roll: :lol:

Based on the study's results and what we know about HPV is there really a problem? I really don't know. HPV is harmless in the large majority of cases and there is a vaccine for the strand or strands(?) that can lead to cervical cancer.

If there is a problem, what is it? Is it that teens have STDs or that they're having sex in the first place?

Is the concern about health issues or social issues?

Statistically, 3 of the posters in this thread have had, will have, or currently have an HPV (STD) infection. :eek:
I suppose you can't fall in the water if you're not near the lake. The problem must be two fold since you cannot contract a STD without having sex but even thought HPV is treatable it seems to me that if you remove the HPV factor from the equation it's still an alarming number. Maybe not an epidemic but if I were out there I'd surely be concerned. But then again I've been off the market.

Good questions too as usual Dizane. The social aspect and health aspect is two fold as well because you cannot have health problems within a small segment of society (particularly our youth) and not consider it a societal can you? A far as your stats go I'll have to defer to your expertise... :mrgreen:

As a youngster I did have a friend that was in and out of clinics every 6 months though... sick:
 
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