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as a seahawk fan im not excited lol. Martz is not a bad coach but he is a much more effective O. Coorinator. He can get San Francisco scoring some points within the next couple years IF the gm listens to him. I still think he will be a candidate for the Seahawks head coaching job if Holmgren calls it quits after the next year or 2
 

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I disagree with your point about Martz ending up in Seattle and here's why: Martz is a very ego driven person and while most in the NFL are also, he wears out his welcome where ever he goes. Ruskell doesn't deal with people that don't promote and believe in the same locker room harmony that he does. So Martz will not be here, matter of fact, our next coach is probably already here and he coaches the secondary. Finally, while Martz is a very good co-ordinator his offense beats up a Q/B with all the empty backfield and 1 back backfield that he likes to run. Alex Smith and the other Q/Bs on SF's roster better be ready to get hit a lot.
 

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I disagree with your point about Martz ending up in Seattle and here's why: Martz is a very ego driven person and while most in the NFL are also, he wears out his welcome where ever he goes. Ruskell doesn't deal with people that don't promote and believe in the same locker room harmony that he does. So Martz will not be here, matter of fact, our next coach is probably already here and he coaches the secondary. Finally, while Martz is a very good co-ordinator his offense beats up a Q/B with all the empty backfield and 1 back backfield that he likes to run. Alex Smith and the other Q/Bs on SF's roster better be ready to get hit a lot.
the martz point definitely makes sense after i think about it DB. look at how often his QBs get injured. and to be honest he is an A-hole.I wouldnt want him in Seattle, I just wouldn't be too surprised if he was in the running.

San Francisco is desperate to finally put the parts together and get a decent offense. It was sad that Gore had a down year and Smith battled injuries early(thanks to Rocky Bernard). They need players more than Martz, that is true. Still he has had above average offensive teams even if his style isn't very good on the QB
 

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Martz in SF doesn't really concern me that much as a Seahawks fan because we have the defense now(particularly our secondary) to deal with them. The team in the division to keep an eye on is still Arizona. They are a much tougher match up with those very big, physical recievers. However, they will continue to have QB health issues as long as Warner is their starter. Pocket passers that cannot move around behind the line in the NFL do not have a very long shelf life as defenses are getting bigger, stronger and faster all the time. That doesn't bode well for Leinart either. :)
 

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About the only thing worse then Carlesimo as the Okla. city Sonics :( coach would be Martz as the Hawks coach conf:
 

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Just beware of the Fish DB....be aware :eek:

They are cleaning house down there and making the statement that its time to put together a championship team finally. I just hope they dont levy everything on 1 year and build it back up like NE did. :mrgreen:
 

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UGG! Just got home and you wrecked my day. I hate MARTZ! Let me repeat. I HATE MARTZ sick: You were right about everything you said about him. I put him on my least liked coach list right at the top.

This guy is one ego driven smug son of a gun. Not liked by his players or other coaches. He is a decent OC but only when he has good personel around him.

Cant wait to see how him and Nolan get along. Bet he tries to undremine him all year. Please o' please say your kidding. Did they really hire him. UGG!

Go Hawks.
 

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Here he goes already,,,,,, :eek:

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Mike Martz claims he can put together a fantastic offense with mostly the same San Francisco 49ers who made up the NFL's worst unit in 2007

It's just the type of brash confidence everybody expects from Martz - and Mike Nolan believes every word of it.

Nolan hired Martz to be his offensive coordinator Tuesday, tasking one of the NFL's most polarizing coaches with reinventing an offense that sank to historic lows last season.

Martz has been on a rocky coaching road for the past three years, but he tormented the 49ers for six years during his greatest successes with their NFC West rival St. Louis Rams. Martz built the so-called Greatest Show on Turf over seven seasons, honing a remarkable passing game while the Rams reached two Super Bowls.

After the Detroit Lions fired him last week following two seasons as their offensive coordinator, Martz - who coached alongside Nolan in Washington a decade ago - jumped at the chance to resurrect the franchise that redefined offensive football in the 1980s under Bill Walsh.

"There are a lot of really outstanding pieces there that we just need to tie together," Martz said. "If we can do that, they're so well-established in special teams and on defense, I think the potential and the opportunity there is pretty exciting. It's not a challenge, it's an opportunity, and that's the part I enjoy."

Martz sees boundless promise in a San Francisco offense built around talented running back Frank Gore, who reminds him of Marshall Faulk.

Of course, Martz also inherits an undistinguished offensive line, a weak receiving corps and a burgeoning quarterback controversy. He didn't even blanche at taking a job with Nolan, whose job could be in jeopardy if the 49ers post a sixth straight losing season in 2008.

"You've got to remember, I've been on the hot seat, too," said Martz, who has been fired twice in just over two years. "I believe that I have such a great feel for who Mike is. ... In this league, it's a year-by-year proposition anyway."

Nothing frightened Martz about replacing Jim Hostler, who also was fired last week after the 49ers finished last in the NFL in points (219), total yards (3,797), yards passing (2,320), offensive touchdowns (23), first downs (218), sacks allowed (55) and third-down conversions (31.4 percent).

Martz, who got a two-year contract, is San Francisco's sixth offensive coordinator in six years. The 49ers didn't disclose Martz's salary, but he would have made $2 million in Detroit next season - and that's more than the 49ers pay Nolan, who has two years left on a five-year, $8 million deal.

While making his name in St. Louis, Martz became known for a confidence that often borders on arrogance - a quality that's also been cited in Nolan. He interviewed only one other candidate - former Dallas and Georgia Tech coach Chan Gailey - before hiring Martz.

"There's no one more creative, as far as using personnel that allows us to be productive on offense," said Nolan, who will return for a fourth season despite a 16-32 record. "He's got one of the best minds in all of football. ... Mike was about as excited as I've seen him, and certainly excited about a lot of our players."

Nolan and Martz were together on the Washington Redskins' coaching staff from 1997-98, with Martz coaching the quarterbacks while Nolan was the defensive coordinator.

It's difficult to tell how Martz's style will mesh with the 49ers, whose only reliable offensive skill has been Gore's rushing. The Lions finished 32nd and 31st in the NFL in yards rushing while Martz concentrated on his inventive passing attacks - but Martz said he didn't have a player like Gore, who compares favorably to former MVP Faulk.

"I think you can put him as the centerpiece and build around that," Martz said. "Frank is a little bit bigger, more physical, but he has the receiving skills, he's an unselfish pass-blocker, and he's really a complete player that really shouldn't come out of the game. That's hard to find in this league anymore."

The 49ers have perhaps the NFL's least impressive collection of receivers, with starters Darrell Jackson and Arnaz Battle backed up by Ashley Lelie and rookie Jason Hill. Tight ends Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker often were underutilized.

And while Alex Smith heals his rift with Nolan over the treatment of the quarterback's shoulder injury, he'll also have to adjust to his fourth new offensive scheme in four NFL seasons - if he even wins the starting job. The 49ers hope to re-sign former third-stringer Shaun Hill, who led the 49ers to victories in his first two NFL starts last month.

"There's great potential there," Martz said. "They're both accurate, and I think Alex, watching him through the year, is very impressive."

Nolan will fill the rest of his coaching staff with input from Martz, but the 49ers already have dropped three of Hostler's assistants. Martz seems inclined to keep receivers coach Jerry Sullivan and offensive line coach George Warhop, praising both veteran coaches Tuesday.

Ted Tollner, the veteran coach who came on late in the season to aid Hostler, also will return to the 49ers in some capacity.
 

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a$_hole or not. he has 2 superbowl appearances and even made detroits offense look decent the past few years. Like I said, not a fan of the guy but wouldnt surprise me to see him as a candidate for the job, not getting the job. Mora only came to Seattle for the eventual head coach position. Would be a dream come true for him to come back after his career at UW Tup: Great guy who I think could keep out playoff appearances up


LOL plus you can only go up with the 49ers offense wink: I bet the niners are ecstatic to get someone with the track record of Martz as an O-Coordinator

Nothing frightened Martz about replacing Jim Hostler, who also was fired last week after the 49ers finished last in the NFL in points (219), total yards (3,797), yards passing (2,320), offensive touchdowns (23), first downs (218), sacks allowed (55) and third-down conversions (31.4 percent).
 
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