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Two Women Stoned: Feminists Mum
By David Horowitz, Robert Spencer and Janet Levy
Thursday, February 07, 2008

Two sisters – identified only as Zohreh and Azar – have been convicted of adultery in Iran.

They have now been sentenced to be stoned to death.

Adultery is a crime punishable by death in the Islamic Republic of Iran, in accordance with the canons of Islamic Sharia law. The Iranian Supreme Court has upheld the stoning sentence.

Zohreh and Azar have already received 99 lashes for "illegal relations." Yet they were tried again for the same crime, and convicted of adultery on the evidence of videotape that showed them in the presence of other men while their husbands were absent. The video does not show either of them engaging in any sexual activity at all.

Their crime is non-existent, their trials a miscarriage of justice, and their sentencing a barbarity.

All those who believe in human rights and human dignity should protest against this sentence.

We call upon the Islamic Republic of Iran to drop all prosecution of Zohreh and Azar, and to end punishment by stoning.

We call upon the Islamic Republic of Iran to end the Sharia-inspired and institutionalized discrimination against women that results in their being treated as chattels of men.

We call upon the Islamic Republic of Iran to affirm the equality of dignity of women with men and the equality of rights of all people, women with men, non-Muslims with Muslims, and to implement these principles in their laws.

We call upon the United Nations and human rights organizations to redouble their pressure on the Islamic Republic of Iran until it ends its war on the rights of women and human rights in general.

We call upon feminists, including the signers of the statement drafted by The Nation's Katha Pollitt, to join us in protesting this outrage. We continue to be stunned but not surprised by the silence of these feminists who have questioned the authenticity of our concern for Muslim women oppressed by the laws of Islam. The feminists who recently complained that the media has falsely represented them as indifferent to the plight of Muslim women have so far been conspicuously indifferent to the plight of Zohreh and Azar. We call upon these feminists in particular to join us in protesting the violence already done to Zohreh and Azar and the death penalty they face. The Islamic Republic of Iran is an oppressor of women. So far American feminists have failed to support their Muslim sisters. We call on them to join us in doing so now
 

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There is a good reason the feminists do not respond to such calls Jabba. I think they are well aware of the fact that protests won't change the plight of those abused Muslim women.

There is only one way to force such a dramatic social change in the region, and that is by physical force, requiring an occupying Army and application of new laws. Isn't that how Japanese women had their lot in life changed?

Feminists would never support such a scenario. They have other things to do, like protect the stupidity of other women who get pregnant.
 

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It is pretty obvious that there is more interest in the Humane Society and Petas projects that there is in the stoning of a couple of Islamic swingers. Oh well not our problem eh?
 

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But it is our problem, you who live up in the NW obviously have not been reading your news or watching your TV's. Oh I remember now you just watch the Aussie news. Remember Mr. Google then just type SHARIA LAW IRAQ and see how much there is written about it. Here is one of them..

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian ... s_rig.html

Hell that piece was written by somebody from somebody who works for the NYT I hear you cry, how can us Righties believe what they say. So I will throw in a religious site.

http://www.religiousconsultation.org/Ne ... tution.htm

Already the women in Iraq have been treated like this, women are being put to death in Iraq. But hell what do you care. I know lets do a FS, lets invade the place, whoops we already have done that, well lets do it all over again and see if we can do a better job. Then maybe those Iraqis will not thrash their backs and draw blood, maybe they will rally behind the beloved one on his white horse and bow down to Christanity. Nah I tell you what let us just admit that we are now responsible for the death and mistreatment of women in Iraq. But there again what does that matter as most of you are male and live in the NW of America and you can always turn a blind eye or is that the turn the other cheek with your eyes closed.

Remember they were murdered because the beloved one wanted rid of Saddam.

http://mksviews.wordpress.com/2007/12/1 ... aqs-south/

The last one you are going to love. It is from a right wing site. ;)
 

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If Muslim women let themselves be victimized by their own religion, nothing I can say will stop it.

Sir John, maybe YOU should go do something and save them from the evil Sharia law? Oh wait... the Brits cut and run and you want us to do the same. Taking after the French these days.

You should probably take as twice much time to think as you do to post your gibberish.
 

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Cut and run Eh, obvious you have not left your bunker in a few years, we are still there with you in Iraq and our soldiers are still getting killed over there.
I hope you withdraw that remark. Because you do know what the hell you are talking about.
 

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Cut and run Eh, obvious you have not left your bunker in a few years, we are still there with you in Iraq and our soldiers are still getting killed over there.
I hope you withdraw that remark. Because you do know what the hell you are talking about.
You speak the truth sir. You may not hear much about it in the news over here, but the Marines (including quite a few of my friends) sure do appreciate the presence.

However much i do not agree with this though, do you want Iran to turn into another Iraq except with nukes? These are not the first 2 women to have this happen over there. It's been going on for centuries. The rest of the world changed, but the Islamic nation remains the same.
 

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If she doesn't know what she is talking about that puts you in the totally lost column. You dip5hit, I said 'not our problem' in sarcasm. Probably too many syllables for you. You probably don't know sarcasm from orgasm.
The muslims have been offing their chattels for millenia. To help you out, chattels=women. It is not something you can blame on the WEST or even George 43. Since you have seniority in the M.E. maybe you should have fixed the mess. What a laff. You bailed out in 1948 and left the issue to the gunbarrels of the dervishes and the Israelites. Nothing like taking care of your responsibilities and then whining cause someone stirred the ants' nest.
You cannot even keep those fine Sharia Law types from killing their women in bloody England let alone elsewhere.
 

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My point is FS wants us to invade the place. Look we have invade Iraq and look what it got us and the folk over there.

The Pet plan is working and for this I am glad. I am one of the few lefties who has backed it from the beginning, even some of the Righties here do not like it. Hell bet they don't even like the new army training manual that is coming out soon over there. But there again it is not them getting killed so that does not matter. After the plan is what I care about and what happens to everybody when we pull out of the country.
 

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Jabba they are also killing them in America, what makes you think they are just doing it over here.

FS point is that we invade Iran, your point is that we left the Middle East in 48. Now lets see, did not you pull out of a country and leave it in deep 5hit. Pot calling kettle black springs to mind. Stick to the subject ( Iran ) and what is happening nowadays. Or shall we go back to the good old days when you massacred folk in Vietnam/Cambodia and such like. I am sure that you remember the good old days. ;)
 

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Good idea powder, nothing like a good battle between the Righties and a Leftie when they keep shutting their eyes.

:lol: Looks like they will be voting for Huck :lol: , now does not that make you laugh. They are voting for a guy who has no chance of winnning, but hell that is democracy at work. Or is it that they just like voting for losers up in the PNW because they are losers themselves.
 

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. women are being put to death in Iraq. But hell what do you care.....

Then maybe those Iraqis will not thrash their backs and draw blood, maybe they will rally behind the beloved one on his white horse and bow down to Christanity. Nah I tell you what let us just admit that we are now responsible for the death and mistreatment of women in Iraq. But there again what does that matter as most of you are male and live in the NW of America and you can always turn a blind eye or is that the turn the other cheek with your eyes closed. Remember they were murdered because the beloved one wanted rid of Saddam.

...Or shall we go back to the good old days when you massacred folk in Vietnam/Cambodia and such like. I am sure that you remember the good old days. ;)

....Or is it that they just like voting for losers up in the PNW because they are losers themselves.
Thank God we kicked the limp-wristed pansy arse British out of America in the 1700's. clap: clap:

Othewise America would have been just like England and been a once was-2nd rate nation on a rapid decline of historical importance. Tdown:

Unfortunalety one of the few things England produces these days is defeatist flaccid socialists like Sir John who only seem to be able to get arroused when they hear something bad about the United States or when they can boast about another American soldier getting blown up. Tdown:

With friends like Sir John does America really need enemies :
 

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Good idea powder, nothing like a good battle between the Righties and a Leftie when they keep shutting their eyes.

:lol: Looks like they will be voting for Huck :lol: , now does not that make you laugh. They are voting for a guy who has no chance of winnning, but hell that is democracy at work. Or is it that they just like voting for losers up in the PNW because they are losers themselves.
See... from what i've read, these are not political debates ya'll have here. They're sh!t flinging contests. I understand now why i stayed away from here before now.

I'm in the PNW... does that make me a loser?
 

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Another Rightie says I love American troops getting blown up, please tell me when did I say that or is it just a figment of your imagination. As you like saying, facts please.

Again he glosses over the facts and just pokes his head above the bunker to get it shot off again.

Surprised at you Rory. FS got caught with her kn1ckers down and you seem to be backing her. Jabba goes back to the good old days, I will check out your age in a bit to see if Vietnam is just a history subject to you. Jabba and me were alive and kicking in those days.
 

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I'm in the PNW... does that make me a loser

Only if you come here with blinkered eyes.
 

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SJ,

I said 'boast about' and that can be well documented, I didn't say that you love or enjoy the thought of Americans dying... although the totality of your political posts might lead one to think otherwise.

All is fair in love and cyberspace old chap.. you're certainly entitled to your opinion and can do as you wish but your infatuation in repeatedly trying to damn and demoralize my beloved country every chance you get is getting really old really fast. wink:
 

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Rory I was just pointing out how wrong FS was and what a mess we have made of Iraq. Some here just look at things with blinkered eyes and the few hard Righties do not reflect what is happening in the rest of the World or the rest of America. You have to admit she was wrong in saying we are cut and running from Iraq. Also some of you Righties do not look further than the boundaries of WA.

I try my best to demoralise the Righties on this site and not America and it seems I am winning. As you say all is fair in cyberspace.
 

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SJ, you are unbelievable! Why don't you get your country straightened out, then comment on ours. You should worry about what is going on in your homeland before you chime in on ours. Quit being such a jealous nimrod. Go get that dental insurance and you should quit wasting your money on smokes.
 

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No dental insurance over here you pay for the treatment thro the nose. Let ask you this would you rather pay to have two teeth pulled or spend that same money on an airfare over here. We used to have a NHS dental service over here but now it is hard even to find a private dentist who works in this area. One of the things the doctor gives you when you move to a new area is the telephone number of an emergency dentist. This could well be in India and they ask where in the country we live and then where to go to get the treatment. Bet you did not know that it is cheaper to take a holiday in Poland and get your teeth done over there and spend the rest of the time enjoying yourself. It is sad reflect of life over here, there is more than one company offering this service. Now I am taking rat poison they will not touch me in cast there are complications. If things do go wrong then the Polish Health Service will still look after us for free if we have remembered to sign and bring with us a form from over here.

One of the latest trends is to take a sea cruise and get your teeth whitened, the down side is the treatment is random and altho the teeth are whitened for a few weeks it soon goes away and the folk are left with no protection on their teeth. The folk whitening the teeth have no certificates and as you know every person is different, what is good for one may not be good for his neighbour.

I love it when the personel attacks start as it means my points are hitting home and the Righties do not like being proved wrong. FS was totally wrong in what she said and when you bite the bullet and agree with me then you will be a true Rightie. But by staying silent you do yourself a discredit.
 
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