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From Obama's website.

Pay Inequity Continues: For every $1.00 earned by a man, the average woman receives only 77 cents, while African American women only get 67 cents and Latinas receive only 57 cents.

Translation; YOU DON'T NEED SKILLS OR WORK ETHIC. JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A MINORITY YOU SHOULD BE PAID EQUALLY.

Hate Crimes on the Rise: The number of hate crimes increased nearly 8 percent to 7,700 incidents in 2006.

Translation; WHITE PEOPLE ARE BIGOTS AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED.

Efforts Continue to Suppress the Vote: A recent study discovered numerous organized efforts to intimidate, mislead and suppress minority voters.

Translation; SEE ABOVE TRANSLATION.

Disparities Continue to Plague Criminal Justice System: African Americans and Hispanics are more than twice as likely as whites to be searched, arrested, or subdued with force when stopped by police. Disparities in drug sentencing laws, like the differential treatment of crack as opposed to powder cocaine, are unfair.

Translation; WHITE PEOPLE ARE BIGOTS. MAYBE MY WIFE WAS RIGHT! I'M NOT SO PROUD OF MY COUNTRY EITHER.

The Bush tax cuts give those who earn over $1 million dollars a tax cut nearly 160 times greater than that received by middle-income Americans.

Translation; FOR YOU PEOPLE WHO DON'T PAY TAXES I'M HERE TO TAX OVER ACHIEVERS. THAT SHOULD MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER.

Provide a Tax Cut for Working Families: Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama will create a new "Making Work Pay" tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family. The "Making Work Pay" tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans.

Translation; PEOPLE WHO DON'T PAY TAXES WILL GET TAXES FROM THE WEALTHY. REDISTRIBUTION.

Zero to Five Plan: Obama's comprehensive "Zero to Five" plan will provide critical support to young children and their parents. Unlike other early childhood education plans, Obama's plan places key emphasis at early care and education for infants,

Translation; YOU PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO RAISE YOUR OWN KIDS. GOVERNMENT WILL DO IT BETTER. AND PAY FOR IT.

Make Math and Science Education a National Priority: Obama will recruit math and science degree graduates to the teaching profession and will support efforts to help these teachers learn from professionals in the field

Translation; EVEN THOUGH YOU SUPPORT ME I THINK TEACHERS ARE STUPID.

Address the Dropout Crisis: Obama will address the dropout crisis by passing his legislation to provide funding to school districts to invest in intervention strategies in middle school

Translation; I'LL PAY YOU PEOPLE TO STAY IN SCHOOL EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE THERE.

Create the American Opportunity Tax Credit: Obama will make college affordable for all Americans by creating a new American Opportunity Tax Credit.

Translation; I'LL TAX THE RICH AND PAY YOU TO GO TO SCHOOL...NEVERMIND, I ALREADY SAID THAT.

Expand Paid Sick Days: Half of all private sector workers have no paid sick days and the problem is worse for employees in low-paying jobs, where less than a quarter receive any paid sick days. Barrack Obama will require that employers provide seven paid sick days per year.

Translation; BEND OVER EMPLOYERS OF AMERICA. I'M FORCING YOU TO PAY FOR BUBBA'S HANGOVERS.

Expand the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA): The FMLA covers only certain employees of employers with 50 or more employees. Barack Obama will expand the FMLA to cover businesses with 25 or more employees. Barack Obama will expand the FMLA to cover more purposes as well, including allowing workers to take leave for elder care needs; allowing parents up to 24 hours of leave each year to participate in their children's academic activities at school; allowing leave to be taken for purposes of caring for individuals who reside in their home for 6 months or more; and expanding FMLA to cover leave for employees to address domestic violence and sexual assault.

Translation; BEND OVER AGAIN. I MISSED THE FIRST TIME.

Expand the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit: The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit provides too little relief to families that struggle to afford child care expenses. Barack Obama will reform the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit by making it refundable and allowing low-income families to receive up to a 50 percent credit for their child care expenses.

Translation; POOR PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME BENEFITS AS EVERYONE ELSE EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T EARN IT.

Bring Our Troops Home: Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.

Translation; I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS I'M A APPEASER. LET THEM DEAL WITH THE FALL OUT. THEY'LL LEAVE US ALONE ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GET OUT.

Regional Diplomacy: Obama will launch the most aggressive diplomatic effort in recent American history to reach a new compact on the stability of Iraq and the Middle East. This effort will include all of Iraq's neighbors â€" including Iran and Syria.

Translation; I'LL BEG FOR FORGIVENESS WITH A SMILE AND A MAGIC WAND, ALL WILL BE OK. THERE'S HOPE.

Improve Our Immigration System
Obama believes we must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill.


Translation; I'LL JUST MAKE ALL ILLEGALS...LEGAL. YEAH THAT'LL FIX THE PROBLEM.

Work with Mexico
Obama believes we need to do more to promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration.


Translation; WE'LL SEND BILLION TO MEXICO BUILD THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE MONEY SAVE BY LEAVING IRAQ.

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Thanks ff. I have trouble with Ebonics and your translation is helpful. Tup:
 
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WOW.....fishinfoolz,

I never realized how intelligent you were. Those translations were brilliant sick: . Could you please translate the Bible for us too.

Maybe the real bigot is yourself and you're just struggling a little now that you've finally realized this wink:

bigot

Main Entry: big·ot
Function: noun
Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot
Date: 1660
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
 

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FF is, as usual, over the top. Even so, I bet he's closer to the truth than some of you want to admit. Read Obama's bio. Read independant ratings that shows he was the most liberal Illinois State Senator.
 

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Last night in the Debate Obama said and I quote....


"Exxon Mobile made 11 Billion dollars in profits last quarter and they're not going to give up those profits easily"


Excuse me, but does anyone support this kind of idiocy from this socialistic profit pilfering purloiner?
 

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fishinfoolz said:
Last night in the Debate Obama said and I quote....


"Exxon Mobile made 11 Billion dollars in profits last quarter and they're not going to give up those profits easily"


Excuse me, but does anyone support this kind of idiocy from this socialistic profit pilfering purloiner?
WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Here's a few inconveinent truths Barack Obama conveniently left out last night while making his socialist diatribe..... light:

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EXXON MOBILE PROFITS


The issue here is the profit figures for Exxon Mobile. This oil company has been a favorite target for leftist, anti-capitalist politicians. I'm sure you remember Hillary screeching about wanting "to take those profits" so that she could spend them.

Recap: In 2006 Exxon reported profits of $39.5 billion. Politicians went nuts. In 2007 those profits went to $40.6 billion. Politicians went nuttier.
The reason politicians can successfully demagogue these profits is that the vast majority .. and we're talking 95% and above .. of Americans couldn't tell you the difference between a profit and a profit margin if their flat screen TVs depended on it. Simply stated, profit is the total amount you make. Profit margin is how much you make on each dollar of sales. You would think that this would be taught in our government schools ... but if you did think that you would be wrong.

So ... what has been happening to Exxon's profit margin during these record profit years? Staying about the same, that's what; around 10%. The reason their profits have been increasing is because the price of crude oil has been going up ... bring gas prices up with them ... thus increasing the dollar amount of sales. Profit â€" up. Profit margins â€" 'bout the same.

By the way ... financial institutions and cosmetics companies have been enjoying higher margins ... along with many other sectors of our economy.
Now .. the numbers that I presented yesterday. Pretty eye-opening. The research was posted on the Seeking Alpha website.
Over the past three years Exxon Mobile has paid an average of $27 billion a year in taxes to the Imperial Federal Government. This has amounted to about 41% of Exxon's taxable income.

The last year for which complete numbers on who pays what taxes are available was 2004. In 2004 there were 130 million individual tax returns filed. If you take the bottom 50% of those tax returns â€" 65 million of them â€" and add up the total amount of taxes those households paid you come up with $27.4 billion. This means that one corporation, Exxon Mobile, pays as much in taxes to the federal government as do the bottom half of individual taxpayers. How's that for paying your fair share.


There's more. The Adjusted gross income for the bottom 50% of taxpayers comes out to about $922 billion. This means that these taxpayers are paying an effective tax rate of about 3% of their adjusted gross income. Exxon? Adjusted gross income of around $67.4 billion in 2006 ... for an effective tax rate of 41%.

There's the facts, my friends. If you're able to absorb them you'll see just how you're being manipulated by the likes of Hillary Clinton and other politicians. If the American voters were truly educated they couldn't get away with it for a minute.
 

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WASHINGTON â€" The House has approved $18 billion in new taxes on the largest oil companies.

The money collected over 10 years is intended to provide tax breaks for wind, solar and other alternative energy sources and for energy conservation.

The measure passed by the House by a 236-182 vote Wednesday as lawmakers cited record oil prices and rising gasoline costs.

Senate Democratic leaders say they will put the bill on a fast track and try to avoid a Republican filibuster. The White House says the bill unfairly singles out the oil industry. President Bush is expected to veto the legislation if it passes Congress.

Rep Jim McDermott, D-Wash., urged lawmakers to "stop the madness of subsidizing oil companies" when the industry earned $123 billion last year.

"Gas prices have been soaring," added Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass., noting that across much of the country people are "struggling to pay energy costs that have skyrocketed in a harsh winter."

But Republicans contended the tax provisions would reduce investment in oil and gas development and lead to higher prices.... "This bill singles out one industry," complained Rep. Kevin Brady, R-Texas.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., noted that the House twice last year passed similar tax provisions â€" only to have it die in the Senate â€" and "since then the price of gasoline has gone up 75 cents" a gallon and large oil companies have made record profits. She said the bill will spur clean energy production with tax incentives for those industries.

Pelosi's office distributed a state-by-state list of high gasoline prices compared with oil industry profits, including a record $40.6 billion in earnings by ExxonMobil Corp. last year.

The bill would roll back two lucrative tax breaks for the largest U.S. oil companies, and use the money for tax incentives to support wind, solar and biofuel industries as well as energy efficiency programs.

Pelosi called the shift of tax benefits from oil to alternative energy development critical to increased energy independence and lowering energy costs.

The White House maintains that singling out the oil companies for higher taxes "would reduce the nation's energy security rather than improve it" and "lead to higher energy costs to U.S. consumers and business."

President Bush would be urged by his senior advisers to veto the bill should Congress send it to his desk, the White House said in a statement on the eve of the House vote.

The oil industry has lobbied intensely against the legislation, calling it a "discriminatory bill" that unfairly targets companies that already pay more taxes than U.S. manufacturers.

"New taxes ... will even further reduce our energy security by discouraging new domestic oil and natural gas production and refinery capacity expansions," the American Petroleum Institute said in a statement.

The bill would direct more than $8 billion to bolster investment in wind, solar, biomass and geothermal energy development, extending many of the tax credits for these industries that have either recently ended or are scheduled to expire at the end of this year.

It also would provide tax breaks for certain energy conservation programs, including a $300 credit for people making their homes more energy efficient. Nearly $2 billion would go toward establishing energy conservation bonds for environmentally beneficial community programs.

"These incentives must be extended immediately to void significant harm to the development of clean energy industries in the United States," said a letter sent to lawmakers by more than 100 businesses, electric utilities, environmental groups and energy efficiency advocates.

A similar tax proposal passed the House last summer, but it was abandoned in the Senate where Republicans overwhelmingly opposed it. Bush at the time promised he would veto the measure because it singled out the oil industry for new taxes.

The bill targets a tax break that Congress provided in 2005 to help domestic manufacturers. It also would limit the amount of tax credits the largest U.S. oil companies could claim under that law. The bill also would limit the tax break provided to oil companies in connection with foreign oil and gas extraction.

The oil companies would have to pay an additional $17.65 billion in federal taxes over 10 years under the proposed changes, according to an analysis by the House Ways and Means Committee.

Democrats anticipated passage of the bill by the House and hoped that the recent surge in oil prices and gasoline costs at the pump would garner more support for it in the Senate.

- foxnews.com
 

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Obama's Class-War Court

When the nomination of John Roberts to be chief justice of the Supreme Court came up in the Senate in 2005, Sen. Barack Obama argued that the role of a justice is to favor the "weak" over the "strong."
When the nomination of Sam Alito came up in January 2006, he made the same argument.
Obama does not want a Supreme Court that preserves the rule of law, he wants a Supreme Court that wages class war under color of law.
During the Roberts nomination debate, he argued that most Supreme Court cases involve no real controversy, "so that both a Scalia and a Ginsburg will arrive at the same place most of the time on those 95 percent of cases."
In the other 5 percent, he argued, the determining factor is not what the law in question says, or what the Constitution says, but the emotional disposition that the justices deciding the case have toward the parties disputing it. "In those difficult cases," Obama said, "the critical ingredient is supplied by what is in the judge's heart." Roberts and Alito were bad judges, he decided, because their hearts weren't in the right place.
"The problem I had is that when I examined Judge Roberts' record and history of public service, it is my personal estimation that he has far more often used his formidable skills on behalf of the strong in opposition to the weak," Obama said in a floor speech on Sept. 22, 2005.
"When I examine the philosophy, ideology and record of Samuel Alito, I am deeply troubled," Obama said in another floor speech on Jan. 26, 2006. "There is no indication that he is not a man of fine character. But when you look at his record, when it comes to his understanding of the Constitution, I found that in almost every case he consistently sides on behalf of the powerful against the powerless."
Implicitly conceding that Roberts would be confirmed, Obama said, "I hope he will recognize who the weak are and who the strong are in our society."
So, in Obama's vision, who are the "weak" and who are the "strong"? Who deserves to win the "hearts" of Supreme Court justices? Who does not?
In contrast to his soaring campaign rhetoric about bringing America together, Obama's Senate speeches against Roberts and Alito revealed a polarizing vision of America. Minorities, womenemployees and criminal defendants were among the weak, majorities, men, employers and prosecutors were among the strong.
"In his work in the White House and the Solicitor General's Office, he seemed to have consistently sided with those who were dismissive of efforts to eradicate the remnants of racial discrimination in our political process," Obama said of Roberts. "In these same positions, he seemed dismissive of concerns that it is harder to make it in this world and in this economy when you are a woman rather than a man."
Alito had a similar problem, only with different preferred victim classes.
"If there is a case involving an employer and employee, and the Supreme Court has not given clear direction, Judge Alito will rule in favor of the employer," Obama said. "If there is a claim between prosecutors and defendants, if the Supreme Court has not provided a clear rule of decision, then he will rule in favor of the state."
Obama expressed disappointed that when he interviewed John Roberts he could not get the judge to reveal more of his personal feelings. "Judge Roberts confessed that, unlike maybe professional politicians, it is not easy for him to talk about his values and deeper feelings," Obama said. "That is not how he is trained."
Rather than trying to get up-close-and-personal with Roberts, Obama should have listened more carefully to the judge's testimony in the Senate Judiciary Committee. It clearly explained why judges must not consider who is "weak" and who is "strong" in a case, or consult their personal sympathies in making decisions that must be based on the facts and the law.
"Judges are like umpires. Umpires don't make the rules; they apply them," said Roberts. "I will decide every case based on the record, according to the rule of law, without fear or favor, to the best of my ability. And I will remember that it's my job to call balls and strikes, and not to pitch or bat."
If Obama becomes president, he will try to stack the court not with umpires, but with players who put their heart in every game — consistently pitching and batting for Obama's favorite teams.
Terence P. Jeffrey is the editor in chief of CSNnews.com.
 
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fishinfoolz said:
Last night in the Debate Obama said and I quote....


"Exxon Mobile made 11 Billion dollars in profits last quarter and they're not going to give up those profits easily"


Excuse me, but does anyone support this kind of idiocy from this socialistic profit pilfering purloiner?
Yeah....me!! Tup: And they probably didn't pay any taxes on those profits either. Now that gas is getting closer to $4.00 a gallon. Let's wait and see what they report for next quarter. conf:

The oil companies are SCREWING us......period!!!! And if you believe they aren't, I would really apreciate it if you would get your head examined. :eek:
 

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"The oil companies are SCREWING us......period!!!! And if you believe they aren't, I would really apreciate it if you would get your head examined. "

Here is hoping his employer decides he is making too much and cuts his wages in half then the city/county decides his home is too nice and he is screwing the other tax payers with out such a nice home and jacks the property tax 10X. If you want to bone someone Ib you have to be prepared to get boned in return. wink:
 
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Theking said:
"The oil companies are SCREWING us......period!!!! And if you believe they aren't, I would really apreciate it if you would get your head examined. "

Here is hoping his employer decides he is making too much and cuts his wages in half then the city/county decides his home is too nice and he is screwing the other tax payers with out such a nice home and jacks the property tax 10X. If you want to bone someone Ib you have to be prepared to get boned in return. wink:
Hey....I asked politely. Didn't you see the words "I would really apreciate it". That doesn't mean he actually has to do it. wink:

But I do feel strongly the oil companies ARE screwing us. Honestly....don't you?
 

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I have perspective.

My wife and kids are healthy and happy and so am I. I live in the greatest country the world has ever known. I can hunt and fish any time I want for one thing or another. I am free to choose what I want to do. I have a friend who just died and he would be happy to pay $10 a gallon just to see another bluebird day like today. I could care less what gas cost and if I did I have lots of choices I can make. Just to name a few things.
 
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Theking said:
I have perspective.

My wife and kids are healthy and happy and so am I. I live in the greatest country the world has ever known. I can hunt and fish any time I want for one thing or another. I am free to choose what I want to do. I have a friend who just died and he would be happy to pay $10 a gallon just to see another bluebird day like today. I could care less what gas cost and if I did I have lots of choices I can make. Just to name a few things.
Sorry to hear about your friend. I know what that's like.

Good perspective too.

p.s. As a Boeing employee, we lost that tanker contract to Nothrup Grumman. They get awarded a 40 billion contract and they're going to buy Airbus airplanes with that money. Kind of ticks me off. Even though they'll be built (or modified) in Mobile, Alabama.
 

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IBCNUL8R said:
fishslave said:
If that upsets you IBC, then I hope the price goes higher. :twisted:
You're just saying that because you like me.
Actually, I think Americans need a wake up call when it comes to energy consumption.

p.s. As a Boeing employee, we lost that tanker contract to Nothrup Grumman. They get awarded a 40 billion contract and they're going to buy Airbus airplanes with that money. Kind of ticks me off. Even though they'll be built (or modified) in Mobile, Alabama.
Not what I was hoping to hear, even though the hubby is employed by NG.
 
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