fishinfoolz wrote: We live in a police State with law enforcement brutalizing it's citizenry every day.
OB-1 wrote:I watched this video and as usual with this type of video it is cut, spliced , and edited to tell only the part of the story that the creator wants seen, police brutality perpetrated on black people.
I noticed that conveniently most of the audio was covered with a music track thereby preventing us from hearing the police tell the person over and over again to "Stay still," "Put your hand behinds your back" Etc. I also noticed that the times that you could hear the audio it was typically only the voices of the spectators not the people directly involved in the altercations. In addition no where in any of the clips did I see the 10 or so minutes leading up to the situation so, the behavior of the person involved is conveniently missing. Time and time again courts have stated that "Police personnel have the right to use appropriate force and, if need be deadly force to protect themselves in these kind of situations" Since the term "Appropriate force" is a relative term, meaning relative to the situation we need to see the whole situation to properly decide whether or not their behavior was indeed appropriate or not.
It is very easy for all of us that are not in those situations to sit back and complain that the police behaved incorrectly but in the heat of the moment the world seems much different than what is portrayed by that video.
Lets not forget the real root of the problem in this video, people committing crimes! If you don't want to have potentially violent in-counters with the police then obey the laws and there should be no problems. As much as they piss me off and come off like rude A-Holes I never got a speeding ticket from an officer that I didn't deserve.
In addition I didn't see the police commit any act of violence in this video that comes any where near the level of brutality of the violence committed against black people by other black people.
Maybe if the African-American culture cleaned up it's own back yard and stopped killing, beating, robbing, and abusing each other the police agencies in this country would follow suit.
In my opinion this is nothing more than just another video propagated and perpetuated by the "Poor me" portion of our culture.
If you don't like the way that "The System" behaves then change the system, and the best way to change the system is to first change your own behavior!
Mountainman wrote:Clockwork, thank you for giving your two bits and not calling everyone on this site a bunch of dumb rednecks. Im not a huge man of words and yes i am undereducated. After reading what you wrote i agree that police beating criminals isnt right nor is their jobs, but it sure is nice to watch once in awhile. It just seems that criminals continue being criminals. Perhaps the punishments arnt severe enouph. What if for every crime the punishment was death? now im not saying this should be so, but it would deff. make you think twice about committing a crime. Maybe we could just cut off a finger or two. then move to a hand or arm. If its rape... then we cut off your ding ding. Punishment should be expected when you commit a crime. your mother spanked you when you were young right!? and if that didnt work.. she would spank you again until you got it.
ps i can see why some people dont show their face on this site.
powder wrote:A lawyer is pulled over by a police officer. The lawyer thinks awful highly of himself and decides he's going to prove he's smarter than this officer, because he's more educated.
Cop: "License and registration please."
Lawyer: "What for, officer?"
Cop: "You didn't stop at the stop sign."
Lawyer: "I slowed down and didn't see anyone coming so i went ahead."
Cop: "You didn't stop and that's the law."
Lawyer: "What's the difference?"
Cop: "Step out of the car please."
The lawyer gets out of the car and the officer proceeds to beat him senseless, then says "Now would you like me to slow down or stop?"
fishinfoolz wrote:Regardless of the crime, law enforcement does not have the right to beat people. Regardless of what is said, police do not have the right to beat people. You can defend this type of brutality all day long and all it does is speak to your ignorance about personal liberty and your constitutionally protected rights. Law enforcement are mandated by law to protect even the criminals they arrest from physical harm.
The police do not have the right to prohibit you from video recording their activity in public. Anyone who thinks they can prevent you from recording their behavior is ignorant of the law, and are responsible for perpetuating the brutality that Americans of all races experience every day.
This video isn't about just black people. It isn't about an agenda of the black community. This video is about police brutality and if anyone defends these monsters and how they treat, and sometime kill people under protections of the government you are a pathetic excuse for an American.
No true freedom loving American with half a brain would defend these monsters. I suppose it should expected though from a fishing website that is comprised from a demographic of undereducated redneck hillbillies. Good God, with folks who support a brutal police State equal to that of third world Countries where rights mean nothing, liberty is stepped on by thugs with guns and badges, it is no wonder our Country is all f'ed up!
streamer wrote:OB-1 pretty much nailed it.
This has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the "victims" that have already committed a crime, not following directions, and law enforcement utilizing force to help restrain/detain the POS so that he will cooperate. As previously stated by OB-1, this is a prime example of propaganda.
Not surprised that fishinfoolz posted this. Get off the web and get a life.
P.S. Don't commit a crime and you don't have to worry about it. If you do, follow directions as ordered and don't resist, otherwise you deserve what you have coming to you.
IBCNUL8R wrote:Boo frickin hoo!!!.....I think it's pretty plain and simple. Don't break the law and you're pretty much good to go.
And then you have the people who think the police are no more than just a person in a halloween costume or something. They DO NOT respect the law or the person wearing the uniform. If a police officer gives the order to stop. THEN STOP!!! If he says get on the ground. GET ON THE GROUND!!! He doesn't know you from Adam, he doesn't know if you have a weapon, he doesn't know anything about you. Do as you're told and there won't be a problem. Pretty simple.
And since Fishinfoolz posted his, now it's time to watch another side of the discussion. Watch carefully. Was the shooting justified? No?? watch it again!!
How many members on this site have been BEATIN into submission by the police? And I'm not talking about friends you know, or someone who knows someone that recieved a beating. I'm talking on this site. I'd be interested to hear the answers.
me my dad and mom were at the kingdome when i was about 8. a guy got pissed at my dad in the hallway and attacked him. my dad grabbed the guy and slammed him into the wall which is all the cops saw. they wrenched his arm way behind his back messing up his shoulder bad then slammed him face down into the concrete floor. the other guy took off. dad has a bad shoulder to this day.
his freind also got a billy club beatdown when cops came into his backyard because he was lighting off illegal firecrackers. he said get off my property you dont have a warrant. they beat him down with clubs and then took off without any kind of paperwork or anything. just came in beat him then split.
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